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I conclude just like you. Meat by-products are a good source of nutrition for dogs and cats.

eddie alfaro

thank you i had a nice time reading your site.

eddie

JESSIE

THIS IS A GREAT ARTICLE! IT REALLY CLEARED UP MY MISCONCEPTION OF BY-PRODUCTS. BUT AS YOU SAID IT'S WHAT MAKES SENSE IN NATURE'S POINT OF VIEW. THANKS!

JESSIE

Sundar

Hello
I am a strict vegetarian planning to buy a German shepherd dog very soon. I cannot let my new member feed on meat. At the same time I am worried about the well being of my dog if it does not have meat. Can you suggest me a way out of this.
Thanks

Dr. Christine Agro, ND. MH, MIr

Your article started off really great, but I'm not convinced about your conclusion. The term 'By Product' is ambiguous when listed in food ingredients. The AFFCO's definition leaves a lot of room for what is considered a 'by product'. People who consider 'by products' a bad thing and know them to be scrapings off the floor, diseased parts, or the parts not suitable for human consumption are not 'crazy'.

For example feathers removed from carcasses are considered a by-product. The feathers are pressure cooked with steam until they become an edible gel making them an acceptable feed grade ingredient (Canine Nutrition. William D. Cusick)

You state that in the wild a dog would naturally eat the feathers, bones, intestines etc. but they also would have their natural instinct to steer clear of anything that is diseased or unhealthy for them. Additionally, never would they eat, for example, feathers that have been pressure cooked into a edible gel.

When we are looking at 'by-products' there are many many unknowns as to what is included and I think it is wrong to tell people out and out that by products are a good thing.

If your argument is that there is necessary nutritional value in bone and organs, then diets should provide those needs by supplying bone and organs. It is impossible to assign nutritional value to by products if the composition is unclear.

The point of the problem with 'by product' labeling is that we as consumers do not know what is making up the 'by product'. Some companies are creating really great foods for our dogs others are not. It becomes our responsibility to determine the difference as the AAFCO leaves a lot of room for the companies to determine what their by products are comprised of.

As guardians for our dogs and as their voice,
it is our responsibility to research and gather information. We look to our vets to guide us and too often I find misinformed responses.

My conclusion is that your article has not gone deep enough and it has not demonstrated that all sources labeled as 'by products' are a source of nutritional value.

Lee C

There is a lot of confusion about a species appropriate diet for dogs. The "why" is that we have crossed the line between science and prolific industry propaganda. Since the 1950s vast sums of money have been poured into shaping public perception because the profits are enormous. Not to mention that “we the people” have a tendency towards anthropomorphism, and convenience is a driving force.


For unbiased scientific information see the article:
http://achinook.squarespace.com/journal/2008/8/11/ol-sheps-plight.html

Marcy

The unhappiest, most food-stressed dog I ever met in my life, was one owned by vegetarians who would not allow the dog anything other than vegetarian food. I would seriously advise anyone unwilling for personal reasons (that apply only to oneself) to properly feed a specific type of pet, to select instead a pet that matches more closely that personal philosophy. Have a rabbit or guinea pig. Just because YOU choose to not eat meat, doesn't make that correct or proper for an animal that is an Extant Carnivore.

Kim

Contrary to Marcy's post, the happiest and healthiest dog I ever knew was vegetarian. I completely disagree with this "logic". Dogs are omnivores, therefore if you choose not to feed meat to your dog, then so be it. They make vegetarian dog food for this reason. When you take on a pet, you are dictating their life anyway, so you're going to impose a certain diet on them regardless. I would rather feed them vegetarian dog food than all the other stuff on the shelves.

hanna

I'm vegetarian myself and own an english bulldog who loves to eat! I feed him meat and lots of veggies, including raw veggies. I have a family: husband and kid. I do not impose my philosophy to my family or dog. I understand when vegans and veges want to have a "cruelty and blood free" house, but I do think this is a personal choice.
I try to cook just healthy food, no "white" rice or pasta, lots of veggies, nuts, etc. However I don't want to force anyone to follow my path. I don't know if I am right or not, but my personal experience is that whatever is imposed is not long lasting.
But I am proud to say that my bulldog is in great shape. He used to eat just "dog food" and was overweight, and now with a diet super rich in raw veggies he's just pure muscles!
I do believe though, whatever you decide for your dog, meat or no meat, you should always feed them fresh food instead of "dry food". Fresh food is Life!

Cherice

Contrary to Kim, dogs are OMNIVORES meaning they need BOTH meat and plants. Not one or the other. Have you ever seen a wild dog picking berries? Everything about a dog's anatomy screams 'I NEED MEAT!' from the shape of their teeth to their natural hunting instincts. And your logic about commercial vegetarian dog food is about as valid as people who say Purina is healthy because the bag says so. Just because they sell it doesn't mean it's actually healthy for your dog.

If you're a vegetarian and oppose feeding meat to a creature that needs it then go buy a rabbit or a hamster. Dogs are too good for you.

By the way, I'm a vegetarian and my dogs eat raw meat every day because they couldn't be healthy without it.

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